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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Now Customs is technically a different area. But some of the same issues arise. We’ve always found New Zealand customs extremely reasonable. This trip we brought back some lacquered chopsticks and some fully sealed Vietnam lollies. We declared them of course - silly not to - and the customs officer said, ‘no problem’. Didn’t want to check our bags and welcomed us home. Makes such a difference.)

Just so you know, the above people you are talking about are MAF. Customs officers act as immigration officers processing your passport, and also have an area where they search bags looking for drugs etc, Customs are not in the slightest bit concerned with your food, that is MAF.

I find NZ Customs officers friendly and efficient, compared with overseas, despite the fact I have seen them be treated like check out chicks at Pak N Save by other travellers who forget they are speaking with fellow human beings and government officials. A little bit of common courtesy goes a long way and when I travel I find a hello and thankyou will suffice to ensure a pleasant and speedy exit from the airport.

Travelling can be stressful and you may be in a foul mood, but people need to remember that the customs officer in front of you has probably been at work longer than you have been on your flight from Australia or the islands, so tiredness is no excuse for rudeness from travellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Now Customs is technically a different area. But some of the same issues arise. We’ve always found New Zealand customs extremely reasonable. This trip we brought back some lacquered chopsticks and some fully sealed Vietnam lollies. We declared them of course &#8211; silly not to &#8211; and the customs officer said, ‘no problem’. Didn’t want to check our bags and welcomed us home. Makes such a difference.)</p>
<p>Just so you know, the above people you are talking about are MAF. Customs officers act as immigration officers processing your passport, and also have an area where they search bags looking for drugs etc, Customs are not in the slightest bit concerned with your food, that is MAF.</p>
<p>I find NZ Customs officers friendly and efficient, compared with overseas, despite the fact I have seen them be treated like check out chicks at Pak N Save by other travellers who forget they are speaking with fellow human beings and government officials. A little bit of common courtesy goes a long way and when I travel I find a hello and thankyou will suffice to ensure a pleasant and speedy exit from the airport.</p>
<p>Travelling can be stressful and you may be in a foul mood, but people need to remember that the customs officer in front of you has probably been at work longer than you have been on your flight from Australia or the islands, so tiredness is no excuse for rudeness from travellers.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Baz!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Baz!</p>
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		<title>By: BE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;With regard to your arrival back to NZ, I think, you’ve got to judge it on a case-by-case (or individual officer) basis.&lt;/em&gt;

Absolutely. 

As to your second point, things would go faster if these sloths actually moved their arses (must be this week&#039;s word) and helped people who aren&#039;t weightlifters by profession, to lug their suitcases on to the conveyor belt. But as I watched this girl stand with her arms by her side as an elderly woman struggled to get her luggage onto the ramp, my blood boiled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>With regard to your arrival back to NZ, I think, you’ve got to judge it on a case-by-case (or individual officer) basis.</em></p>
<p>Absolutely. </p>
<p>As to your second point, things would go faster if these sloths actually moved their arses (must be this week&#8217;s word) and helped people who aren&#8217;t weightlifters by profession, to lug their suitcases on to the conveyor belt. But as I watched this girl stand with her arms by her side as an elderly woman struggled to get her luggage onto the ramp, my blood boiled.</p>
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		<title>By: BE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;First point; after this the chances of you and Judy getting back into NZ without undergoing an intimate body search are nil. The border guards will be on red alert just waiting for Edwards and Callingham in order to remind them not to write rude blogs about the immigration service.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not too worried, Ben. I think we were pretty nice to the New Zealand immigration people. That said, I don&#039;t disagree with what you&#039;ve said, other than your &#039;most arrivals&#039;. In almost 30 years of travelling round the world, we&#039;ve seen very little evidence of the passenger behaviour you describe. Most people seem pretty nice.

But there are undoubtedly many assholes among the travelling public. I have no objection at all to the immigration officers giving them short shrift. But when saintly and angelic people like Judy and me go through, we at least expect a Hello and a smile. 

By the way, I wouldn&#039;t take too much notice of Border Patrol. It&#039;s a TV programme, Ben. It&#039;s not interested in nice, normal travellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>First point; after this the chances of you and Judy getting back into NZ without undergoing an intimate body search are nil. The border guards will be on red alert just waiting for Edwards and Callingham in order to remind them not to write rude blogs about the immigration service.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too worried, Ben. I think we were pretty nice to the New Zealand immigration people. That said, I don&#8217;t disagree with what you&#8217;ve said, other than your &#8216;most arrivals&#8217;. In almost 30 years of travelling round the world, we&#8217;ve seen very little evidence of the passenger behaviour you describe. Most people seem pretty nice.</p>
<p>But there are undoubtedly many assholes among the travelling public. I have no objection at all to the immigration officers giving them short shrift. But when saintly and angelic people like Judy and me go through, we at least expect a Hello and a smile. </p>
<p>By the way, I wouldn&#8217;t take too much notice of Border Patrol. It&#8217;s a TV programme, Ben. It&#8217;s not interested in nice, normal travellers.</p>
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		<title>By: BE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It’s a while since I have had to given customs any business, 1985 in fact. We arrived in Wellington after having visited 15 countries and like most travelers were looking forward to coming home.&lt;/em&gt;

Now Customs is technically a different area. But some of the same issues arise. We&#039;ve always found New Zealand customs extremely reasonable. This trip we brought back some lacquered chopsticks and some fully sealed Vietnam lollies. We declared them of course  - silly not to - and the customs officer said, &#039;no problem&#039;. Didn&#039;t want to check our bags and welcomed us home. Makes such a difference. 

BUT check out the Aussie programme &lt;em&gt;Border Security&lt;/em&gt;  I watched an elderly woman who had mistakenly shoved some bananas, she&#039;d been given on the plane, in her carry bag and didn&#039;t declare them. She had no cash and couldn&#039;t pay the $210 fine. So she had to sit there for hours, till she could arrange payment of the fine. The customs officer was an absolutely heartless and unreasonable harridan. You see a lot of power-driven unreasonableness on the show. Some of these are people who clearly get their jollies from searching through people&#039;s luggage, item by item. There&#039;s a serious purpose in their work of course. Australia&#039;s agriculture sector could be devastated by seemingly innocent plants and insects. But you soon begin to recognise the power trippers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It’s a while since I have had to given customs any business, 1985 in fact. We arrived in Wellington after having visited 15 countries and like most travelers were looking forward to coming home.</em></p>
<p>Now Customs is technically a different area. But some of the same issues arise. We&#8217;ve always found New Zealand customs extremely reasonable. This trip we brought back some lacquered chopsticks and some fully sealed Vietnam lollies. We declared them of course  &#8211; silly not to &#8211; and the customs officer said, &#8216;no problem&#8217;. Didn&#8217;t want to check our bags and welcomed us home. Makes such a difference. </p>
<p>BUT check out the Aussie programme <em>Border Security</em>  I watched an elderly woman who had mistakenly shoved some bananas, she&#8217;d been given on the plane, in her carry bag and didn&#8217;t declare them. She had no cash and couldn&#8217;t pay the $210 fine. So she had to sit there for hours, till she could arrange payment of the fine. The customs officer was an absolutely heartless and unreasonable harridan. You see a lot of power-driven unreasonableness on the show. Some of these are people who clearly get their jollies from searching through people&#8217;s luggage, item by item. There&#8217;s a serious purpose in their work of course. Australia&#8217;s agriculture sector could be devastated by seemingly innocent plants and insects. But you soon begin to recognise the power trippers.</p>
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		<title>By: BE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I worked in a low paid, front line position a few years back. I always made sure to give a smile and a friendly word and be helpful. The payback in most cases was a positive reaction from the public which made me feel good. &lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s it in a nutshell, Sophie. And I can&#039;t understand why being an Immigration Officer should be a dull job. Great skill is required in assessing the character and truthfulness of the thousands of people who come through your gate every week. Far from being dull, it strikes me a highly interesting and challenging. It&#039;s also very important indeed. You job, as you say, is probably what you bring to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I worked in a low paid, front line position a few years back. I always made sure to give a smile and a friendly word and be helpful. The payback in most cases was a positive reaction from the public which made me feel good. </em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s it in a nutshell, Sophie. And I can&#8217;t understand why being an Immigration Officer should be a dull job. Great skill is required in assessing the character and truthfulness of the thousands of people who come through your gate every week. Far from being dull, it strikes me a highly interesting and challenging. It&#8217;s also very important indeed. You job, as you say, is probably what you bring to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Baz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking on behalf of the rest of we non-customs folk..Welcome back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking on behalf of the rest of we non-customs folk..Welcome back!</p>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked in a low paid, front line position a few years back.  I always made sure to give a smile and a friendly word and be helpful.  The payback in most cases was a positive reaction from the public which made me feel good.  A job is what you make it and if you have to do something to earn a living you might as well make it enjoyable.  No, I am not Pollyanna, but you never know who will notice you doing a good job, I had  several job offers from people who appreciated my attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked in a low paid, front line position a few years back.  I always made sure to give a smile and a friendly word and be helpful.  The payback in most cases was a positive reaction from the public which made me feel good.  A job is what you make it and if you have to do something to earn a living you might as well make it enjoyable.  No, I am not Pollyanna, but you never know who will notice you doing a good job, I had  several job offers from people who appreciated my attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Baz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a while since I have had to given customs any business, 1985 in fact.
We arrived in Wellington after having visited 15 countries and like most travelers were looking forward to coming home. The customs guy that &quot;greeted us&quot; might as well have had POWER in 42 point stenciled on his forehead. Apart from his general supercilious manner, one particular incident got me going. At the time Trivial Pursuit was enjoying a world-wide popularity and I had brought back 5 versions, movies, music, NZ etc. Our interrogator, obviously  aware of world trends had no knowledge of the phenomenon. I explained that they were games which tested players skills at  various subjects. He decided that they were in fact toys, which were dutiable rather than games, which were exempt. His decision tended to peeve me somewhat, not particularly because of the financial accept but because of his illogical ignorance and I attempted to help him see the error of his ways. My wife, being of a somewhat calmer nature, suggested that my course of action was inadvisable and best if I capitulated. The rest of the interrogation continued in the same manner.Talk about ambassadors. Nice to see that the status quo is being maintained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a while since I have had to given customs any business, 1985 in fact.<br />
We arrived in Wellington after having visited 15 countries and like most travelers were looking forward to coming home. The customs guy that &#8220;greeted us&#8221; might as well have had POWER in 42 point stenciled on his forehead. Apart from his general supercilious manner, one particular incident got me going. At the time Trivial Pursuit was enjoying a world-wide popularity and I had brought back 5 versions, movies, music, NZ etc. Our interrogator, obviously  aware of world trends had no knowledge of the phenomenon. I explained that they were games which tested players skills at  various subjects. He decided that they were in fact toys, which were dutiable rather than games, which were exempt. His decision tended to peeve me somewhat, not particularly because of the financial accept but because of his illogical ignorance and I attempted to help him see the error of his ways. My wife, being of a somewhat calmer nature, suggested that my course of action was inadvisable and best if I capitulated. The rest of the interrogation continued in the same manner.Talk about ambassadors. Nice to see that the status quo is being maintained.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First point; after this the chances of you and Judy getting back into NZ without undergoing an intimate body search are nil.  The border guards will be on red alert just waiting for Edwards and Callingham in order to remind them not to write rude blogs about the immigration service.

Second point; I suspect that immigration oficers become arseholes because so many of those with whom they deal are arseholes (your good self and JC excepted of course).  One only has to watch Border Patrol and similar programmes to realise that it takes enormous self restraint not to Taser most arrivals. I have been behind obnoxious travellers and listened to the way they have talked to the officers.  I have been tempted to suggest that the IO gives them a wallop while I turn the other way.

Civility and cordiality work both ways and those who have the misfortune to work with the public and be regarded as &#039;menials&#039; will attest to the fact that it is very hard to keep a smile on one&#039;s face.  Perhaps you could expand your media training to include training for the arseholes who make up the general public and teach them how to treat service providers.  There is a large section of the general population who are pigs and have the manners of pigs.  Those of us who try to be polite to others suffer because of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First point; after this the chances of you and Judy getting back into NZ without undergoing an intimate body search are nil.  The border guards will be on red alert just waiting for Edwards and Callingham in order to remind them not to write rude blogs about the immigration service.</p>
<p>Second point; I suspect that immigration oficers become arseholes because so many of those with whom they deal are arseholes (your good self and JC excepted of course).  One only has to watch Border Patrol and similar programmes to realise that it takes enormous self restraint not to Taser most arrivals. I have been behind obnoxious travellers and listened to the way they have talked to the officers.  I have been tempted to suggest that the IO gives them a wallop while I turn the other way.</p>
<p>Civility and cordiality work both ways and those who have the misfortune to work with the public and be regarded as &#8216;menials&#8217; will attest to the fact that it is very hard to keep a smile on one&#8217;s face.  Perhaps you could expand your media training to include training for the arseholes who make up the general public and teach them how to treat service providers.  There is a large section of the general population who are pigs and have the manners of pigs.  Those of us who try to be polite to others suffer because of them.</p>
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