Posted by BE on October 30th, 2010
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If you, like me, are a cryptic crossword nut, the Weekend Herald will provide your most challenging and rewarding mental workout of the week.
You’ll also be aware that the common view that cryptic crosswords are more difficult than ‘ordinary’ crosswords is entirely incorrect. Once you’ve learnt the tricks of the trade and become familiar with the particular style of the compiler, the cryptic crossword is a walk in the park compared to its synonym-finding alternative.
Nonetheless, there are days when you will be stumped and face the demeaning (and costly) prospect of having to ring 0900XWORD to be told the answer/s. Those days are now over, my friend, for fans of the Weekend Herald’s cryptic crossword at least. That is because I am about to indiscreetly release kitty. (3,3,3,3,2,3,3.)
The Weekend Herald cryptic crossword is actually taken from the UK newspaper The Independent. And, if you go onto the Net, you can find a site which includes not only all the answers to The Independent’s cryptic crosswords, but also explanations by the compiler of how each clue was constructed and comments from nuts like myself on the more interesting clues. There are also solutions to cryptic crosswords in other British papers.
There are two occasions to visit the site:
1. When you’re totally stumped by a clue and are certain you’re never going to get the answer.
To find your particular crossword: Go to the site; In the ‘site search’ box, type in the solution to any one of the clues you did get and press ‘search’; The solutions to every Independent cryptic crossword in which that clue was used will then appear.
2. When you’ve successfully completed the crossword, but are uncertain how a particular solution was arrived at or would like to read other people’s comments or make a comment yourself.
Cryptic crossword nuts in other centres may discover that their local rag also borrows from one of the UK papers, so it’s worth visiting the site to find out.
If you don’t want to learn the internet address for this site, DO NOT
http://fifteensquared.net/category/independent/
Doug Coutts October 30th, 2010 at 13:38
Those new glasses take years off you.
BE October 30th, 2010 at 13:53
Those new glasses take years off you.
(Regretted sodmist by the sound of it. 4,6 )Rude bugger!
Edward October 30th, 2010 at 14:48
When really stumped for an answer to a cross word clue, I have used one of the many online crossword dictionaries. Type in the letters you have with blanks and you get a list of words from which to pick the most suitable answer. At least this still keeps you thinking and Alzheimers at bay.
BE October 31st, 2010 at 12:05
When really stumped for an answer to a cross word clue, I have used one of the many online crossword dictionaries.
Hmmm… that comes close to cheating (oneself) in my book. I don’t seek help other than from the dictionary or thesaurus, until I have either finished the crossword or given up.
Ben October 31st, 2010 at 10:20
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BE October 31st, 2010 at 12:12
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Brian Edwards
Dwossie Bleu-Bleu October 31st, 2010 at 14:23
The cryptic crossword is too difficult for the majority of the Herald readers, so why waste time trying to make sense out of nonsense? Hardly anyone bothers with it. The Word Wheel and Word Builder are plenty challenging enough for the average person.
peterlepaysan October 31st, 2010 at 21:32
Oh, I take it that occupying oneself with Word Wheel, and/or Word Builder is not “trying to makes sense out of nonsense”.
The whole point of puzzles is trying to make sense out of nonsense.
“If hardly anyone bothers with it’ I wonder why our media keep wasting space and time on airing it.
As you are so knowledgeable about the “average reader” I am surprised you are not an editor.
You stick to your puzzles and the rest of us will stick to ours.
That way we can all “waste time” according to our whim.
YAWN…..
peterlepaysan October 31st, 2010 at 21:42
Thanks for the post. Now I can shamelessly cheat.
I could be called a cryptic crossword slut.
I have to know the answer (and figure out why). I have to know it now, not tomorrow, I am too busy doing that crossword.
BE November 1st, 2010 at 09:45
Thanks for the post. Now I can shamelessly cheat.
I also have to know the answer. But I don’t cheat. As I said, I only look up an answer when I’ve finally given up on the crossword as a whole. I don’t continue with other clues which may have been assisted thanks to letters from the looked-up answer. If you follow that reasoning!
Kate November 1st, 2010 at 16:26
My mother-in-law showed me the techniques for solving cryptic crossword clues a few years ago, and I have never looked back. Each week I do the Listener cryptic (and regular) crossword with great enjoyment, and try to break my personal best speed record for solving the cryptic crossword (apx 20 minutes on a good week; on a bad week…don’t ask).
When I was a child, my mother – a fan of the Dominion’s daily crossword – told me that looking up the answers was “cheating”, and thus (alas!) programmed me to feel guilty if I ever looked an answer up. As a result I, like BE, now only look up answers if I have totally given up on solving the crossword by myself.
Recommended reading: David Sedaris’ amusing short essay on being a cryptic crossword addict: “21 Down”.
peterlepaysan November 1st, 2010 at 21:50
Actually BE I do do the same. It is only when the entire crossword has been assaulted many times and there are a (hopefully very few)redoubts left resisting my frustrated ego that I resort to cheating.
It is not about winning, it is about needing to know.
I must be a frustrated journalist.
Don November 2nd, 2010 at 11:51
Ah, my favourite part of the Herald. Not the standard cryptic (the Independent one), but the thing of malign and cruel beauty that is Kropotkin’s crossword. The enjoyment of my weekend depends almost entirely on – if not solving the whole thing – getting to within a couple of clues.
For the rest of the week, I buy the DomPost, because on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday it has not only the Telegraph cryptic but also the Times cryptic. A great way to spend lunchtime…
Ian Dalziel November 5th, 2010 at 16:08
Dear Mystery
I can usually wait until the next day if I can’t get a cryptic crossword out entirely. But do have to check.
To be honest I find regular crosswords harder as they are really just thesaurus exercises whereas the cryptic actually spells it out for you, once you are on the setter’s frequency.
I have issues with the new setter for The Christchurch Press’s cryptic, often clues seem inadequate, inaccurate or use some of the answer words in the clue, grrrr.
I also feel for some of the younger, and less well read puzzle solvers, as many clues contain elements and references of almost antediluvian age.
My favourite tricky clue was mentioned in a book (I can no longer remember the name of)
clue: “e” (13)*
obscurely yours
Ian Dalziel
designersaur
PS: also I’m guessing a “sodmist”
is – a cloud of invective… :- )
*answer: senselessness
BE November 6th, 2010 at 14:23
Dear Mystery I can usually wait until the next day if I can’t get a cryptic crossword out entirely. But do have to check.
“e” (13) sense less ness = e Like it, but I would certainly have struggled on the day.
WAKE UP November 8th, 2010 at 13:29
Is it hubris if I say that I immediately knew the answer to Indiscreetly release kitty (3,3,3,3,2,3,3) ?